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1 Q – list for me the other material you were

2 sent to review in connection with this case.

3 A Okay. I got a report from Dr. Gatewood. A

4 report from Dr. K. A report from IB. I

5 also have reports from Dr.l, F, F,

6 G, and Nurse C. I looked at

7 Dr. H’s deposition. And let’s see. I looked

8 at — this is Dr. — let’s see. I had that one, I

9 think. P. I think I looked at S, P.

10 March 15th. Okay. No, I don’t –

11 Q Is that it?

12 A Let’s see. Yeah, I already said that. No,

13 I think that’s it.

14 Q Did this — all the material that you were

15 ever sent in this case come with any cover letters from

16 defense counsel?

17 A Yeah, I think it probably did, but I don’t

18 have them. Oh, I have two of them. I have — I have

19 one dated February 21st, 2001 with the reportsl,

20 F, F, and I have another cover letter with

21 reports of Gatewood, K and B. The rest of


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1 them I don’t have.

2 Q Where are the rest of the letters?

3 A Probably lost.

4 Q How could you lose letters you were sent in

5 connection with this case?

6 A It’s easy.

7 Q Did you lose anything in this case you were

8 sent, other than the cover letters from defense

9 counsel?

10 A Not that I can remember.

11 Q Do you know when you lost the cover letters

12 from defense counsel?

13 A No.

14 Q Has this happened in other cases that

15 you’ve reviewed for defense counsel, things get lost?

16 Do you recall?

17 A I would say yeah, things get lost probably

18 about 75 percent of the time.

19 Q And would you agree with me that it’s only

20 cover letters from defense counsel that get lost each

21 time?


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1 A No. I think it’s equally distributed

2 between defense and plaintiff.

3 Q Well, what percentage of p’ work

4 do you do, sir?

5 A It’s about 20 percent.

6 Q Do you do any p’ work in the state

7 of Maryland?

8 A Sure.

9 Q When was the last time you testified in the

10 state of Maryland that a delay in delivery caused brain

11 damage to a baby?

12 A I probably never have really testified.

13 That sounds like more of a standard-of-care issue. I’m

14 more related to causation, you know, when it occurred.

15 Q Right. When have you ever testified in

16 Maryland that the cause of a baby’s brain damage was a

17 delay in delivery, or, putting it another way, that an

18 earlier delivery would have avoided brain damage?

19 A Well, I don’t think I’ve testified very

20 often at all throughout the years. It’s not — I

21 testify about, you know, the mode of injury, but –


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1 Q Okay.

2 A – the timing of delivery would be

3 something for the obstetrician.

4 Q When have you ever testified outside the

5 state of Maryland that an earlier delivery would have

6 avoided brain damage in a baby, or, putting it another

7 way, that having the baby delivered at the time the

8 baby was delivered is what the cause of the brain

9 damage was?

10 A I’m not sure I’ve ever testified one way or

11 the other. The — I don’t really testify about

12 delivery very often. It’s more the cause — the cause

13 and timing of the brain injury.

14 Q Sir, isn’t it a fact on many occasions in

15 defense cases, you have testified that an earlier

16 delivery would not make a difference, because the cause

17 of the baby’s brain damage occurred well before the

18 labor and delivery process?

19 A Well, the primary focus would be on the

20 cause and timing of the injury, not so much on the mode

21 of delivery.


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1 Q Right. I know that. And wouldn’t you

2 agree with me that many times you’ve testified that the

3 timing of the cause of the baby’s brain damage was

4 before the labor and delivery process?

5 A All right. That’s true about 80 percent of

6 the time, as you know.

7 Q I’m asking you. When you testified, you’ve

8 testified to that on many occasions, correct?

9 A I don’t know. I think we’re going nowhere.

10 Q Well, that’s because you don’t want to

11 answer the question. I’m going to ask until I get a

12 responsive answer.

13 MR. J: Objection.

14 Q Isn’t it fair, sir, that you’ve testified

15 that the cause of a baby’s brain damage has occurred

16 before the labor and delivery process?

17 A Sometimes, yeah, but I don’t know how many.

18 Q Okay. And the opposite of that, isn’t it

19 fair to say you’ve never testified that the timing of a

20 cause of a baby’s brain damage occurred during a labor

21 and delivery process?


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1 A Yeah, I’ve testified on that on numerous

2 occasions, sure.

3 Q Oh, okay. Can you list for me any of those

4 numerous occasions where you’ve testified that the

5 timing of a baby’s brain damage occurred during a labor

6 and delivery process?

7 A I’ll name one, but I’m not going to give

8 you a long list. I’ve testified — I testified in

9 Dayton, Ohio about nine months ago that the cause of

10 the brain injury was forceps delivery.

11 Q Who’s the plaintiff’s attorney?

12 A Greg Gibson.

13 Q And that was nine months ago, correct?

14 A Yeah.

15 Q Okay. Sir, how much time have you spent

16 looking at all this material and talking to the

17 attorneys?

18 A Probably about six hours.

20 attorneys before?

21 A One time, yeah. I think I gave a


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1 deposition a couple years ago.

2 MR. J: I was –

3 Q Do you remember the name of that case?

4 MR. J: Just to correct that, I

5 wasn’t working with you. There was some other defense

6 counsel from another law firm on that case. I just

7 happened to be –

8 THE WITNESS: But this firm I think was –

9 MR. J: I was a co-defendant in that

10 case.

11 THE WITNESS: Yeah.

12 A There was at least one other time, this

13 W, H firm, because I remember the stationery.

14 It’s got the Terminal Tower on the front. You want –

15 Q Do you remember the name of the case, is

16 the question?

17 A No.

18 Q In that case, were you testifying about the

19 cause of the timing of a baby’s injury?

20 A Most likely, yeah.

21 Q Did you give a deposition where you are


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1 giving a deposition today?

2 MR. J: Excuse me? I don’t

3 understand.

4 A You mean in the same court reporter –

5 Q Yes.

6 A Probably, yeah.

7 Q Okay. Are there any conference rooms at

8 the KKInstitute?

9 A Yeah.

10 Q How many people can fit in a conference

11 room at the KK Institute?

12 A It depends. There’s one that you can

13 probably fit about 60 people in, and others about a

14 dozen.

15 Q And is there more than two conference rooms

16 at the KK?

17 A I think probably altogether there are about

18 eight.

19 Q Okay. Are they packed all hours of the

20 day?

21 A Pretty much.


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1 Q Do you ever schedule things in those

2 conference rooms?

3 A Sometimes.

4 MR. J: I’m going to object to this

5 line of questioning. Go ahead.

6 A Well, you’d like to learn –

7 KK Institute, you might want to make a

8 donation.

9 Yeah, they’re packed. We have a hundred

10 thousand patient visits a year. We have 350 children

11 in our school. Fifteen hundred people work there. So

12 it’s — it’s a busy place.

13 Q The question is, do you ever schedule

14 things during any of those conference rooms?

15 A Yeah, sure. When it’s business or

16 teaching, sure.

17 Q Okay. Well, you do schedule visits there.

18 Why don’t you ever schedule a deposition at the

19 KK Institute?

20 A Well, I think it’s — it’s not really

21 official KK business. I think it would be


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